Thursday, December 18, 2008

Blowback and the (Reasonably) Good Guys

In two recent posts (here and here), I have noted that the Bush Administration's policies regarding torture and the treatment of prisoners suspected of terrorist activity (especially in Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib, but extending also to rendition programs and hidden CIA prisons) have led to a loss of U.S. stature in the world. This loss of stature has the effects both of making it more difficult for the U.S. to gain the cooperation of other nations and of actually increasing the deaths of American soldiers (because our policies perversely encourage people to join anti-American groups that attack and kill our troops based in Iraq). I thus concluded that Bush's misguided policies did not merely prevent Americans from feeling good about ourselves in some abstract sense but affirmatively harmed us in tangible ways. It is important, I argued, for us to become "the good guys" once again.

Earlier this week, in "Blowback," Mike offered a very sobering set of observations in reply to my posts. Referring to Stephen Kinzer's book Overthrow: America's Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq, Mike pointed out that the long, sordid history of U.S. intervention around the world hardly leaves room for us to imagine a lost age of innocence before Bush when we were ever truly the good guys. Installing the dictatorship of the Shah in Iran, overthrowing Allende in Chile, supporting the contras in Nicaragua, etc., etc., hardly make for a list of proud achievements to which Americans can point as proof that we have unerringly been on the side of good. To this list of foreign policy malfeasance I would add such domestic atrocities as our treatment of the American Indians (perhaps most memorably the "Trail of Tears") and, of course, the long history of slavery and its aftermath. (Other examples abound, including the internment of Japanese American citizens during WWII.)

While Mike notes graciously that "
Neil is not entirely wrong in characterizing the U.S. as the good guys," I find it interesting that, even though I am fully aware of this shameful history of the U.S.'s malevolent actions both domestically and abroad, I felt (and to some degree still feel) comfortable describing America in the years before Bush as the good guys. Not only did I feel comfortable saying so with a straight face, moreover, I did so without even consciously thinking about all of the evidence to the contrary. The act of compartmentalizing our bad acts is thus, at least for me, pre-cognitive. What explains this -- other than the obvious possibility that I am simply an America-love-it-or-leave-it stooge, a Frank Burns of the law school set?

Part of the answer is, as Mike points out, that we are relatively better than authoritarian states in the way we handle our foreign ventures. We (no longer) countenance genocide, and we now pay serious attention to reducing (but obviously not eliminating) civilian deaths. Carpet bombing, for example, is not something that we have practiced recently. Even so, this remains true at the end of the Bush regime. That is, while Bush's policies are worse than the policies in place immediately prior to Bush's presidency, his policies also do not constitute genocide or the toleration of hundreds of thousands of deaths as "collateral damage." Even Bush's acts of omission, particularly with respect to Darfur, are hardly a major change from Clinton's failure to act in Rwanda.

If it were possible to quantify the "degree of horribleness," if you will, we might describe pre-Bush policies and Bush's policies as being within a multiple or so of each other (perhaps less), whereas the difference between recent policies and our worst acts of the past is arguably a matter of orders of magnitude. There are many parallels between Vietnam and Iraq, but thankfully the body count (of both soldiers and civilians) is not close even on an annualized basis. The steps backward since 2001 have been important, but they thankfully have not wiped out the progress that we have made in recent decades.

There have always been countries and peoples who can point to very plausible reasons for their hatred of the U.S. We have never been the good guys to everyone, and maybe not even to most people. It is probably impossible for any country to achieve such a status. Even so, it was possible before Bush to look at the positives of our history and the upward trajectory that it represents with some measure of pride, even taking into account the negatives and vowing never to let them happen again. Not reverting to being as terrible as we once were is a good thing, but it is not a defense for Bush's policies. His policies have harmed our interests, our soldiers, and many innocent people around the world. Whether we were ever good guys, we can certainly be better than this.

-- Posted by Neil H. Buchanan

10 comments:

Caleb said...

Right after World War II, the Canadian Foreign Affairs Office asked all its high ranking members to report on what their expectations were for coming system of international relations.

The group reached consensus on two things:

1) The Soviet Union and the US will both try to expand their sphere's of influence and are likely to compete to be the sole superpower.

2) Canada is unlikely to be able to remain outside this competition, and, if forced to choose, we would rather the Americans win.

It seems to me that the worry is less about being the good guy (although it feels nice to be the good guy), than about offering the "philosophy" or "political/economic sphere" which other countries would prefer if forced to choose.

I think that "we're slightly better than X" is a devise that has been used to justify or excuse a lot of terrible things in the past (and which props up a lot of Canadian chauvanism vis-a-vis the US), without actually addressing the problem of unjust actions taken in the "best interests" of countries.

egarber said...

So, merging posts from the past few days, how does a "pragamatist" avoid these pitfalls in foreign policy? After all, it seems that partnering with the enemy of your enemy is pretty pragmatic (or at least practical). [Of course, I'm not talking about the massive blunders here.]

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亀丸 圭一郎の情報教材
(中村 明義)mixi専用あしあとツール mixiNavi バージョン3.3 - バックグラウンド処理の時刻指定自動実行機能版
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◎学習教材
(福永 亜由美/株式会社メガプロモーション)韓国ドラマをもっと楽しみたいあなたへ~4時間55分の音声でハングル脳がみるみる目覚める!!【超らく韓国語マスター術】
(World Wide Vision 株式会社 和氣布由巳)Score Up 1-2-3 for the TOEIC(R) Test
(奥田 俊雄)暗記と理解が同時にできる一石二鳥の文章暗記法Ver2
澤井 大輔 株式会社 OMコンサルティング 社労士試験合格バイブル~超効率的学習法~
((株)ホットライン)川村明宏のジニアス速読術




◎医療・健康
(加藤 良一 整形外科)専門家でも簡単になおらない?? やっかいなテニス肘
(久保裕 株式会社ユニネット)あなたもきっと良くなる!アトピー性皮膚炎を自分で改善する5つの法則
(遠藤 岳)ペニスセルフ増大メソッド『エクササイズ・メソッドオール』
(株式会社KABUTO 藤波孝一)【川俣式整体】 椎間板ヘルニア改善法
竹原 秀明 赤ちゃん・子どもがぐっすり眠る魔法の安眠術



◎恋愛系
(株式会社 Good Appeal)【復縁マニュアル】女性限定!『復活愛の極意!元カレと寄りを戻す方法』

(アリスエオフィス有末 やよい)メールセミナー『30日で!コワイくらいモテる男に生まれ変わる184の魔法!』

(株式会社 Good Appeal)略奪愛の成功法則-彼氏がいる女をゲットする方法

(中 徳治)櫻井秀勲の復縁マニュアル 男性向け限定版

(高崎 明彦)【 復縁 】 大好きなあの人と復縁できる方法

(五十嵐玲子)大切なあの人との復縁マニュアル(株式会社夢丸)

瀬戸口 理蘭 恋ナビ

(ナレッジカレッジ株式会社 町田ゆういち)【FLS】CD

(井上 鈴乃)略奪!彼氏持ちの女性を自分の彼女にする

(ナレッジカレッジ株式会社)女の子を思い通りに動かすメールテクニック

(大坪 伸)cabapedia(キャバペディア)~狙ったキャバ嬢を1日で落とす方法~

完全無敵のモテ男計画 松尾 愛

(株式会社KABUTO 藤波孝一)女性を一気に盛り上げ、釘付けにする【ネタ100選】

(大山 誠)会話とメールの全文を丸事パクってもてる男になるプログラム【全額返金保証付き】



◎投資系
日経225先物 「マジックキャンドル10」(株式会社DREAM-CATCHER)

北村 浩 日経先物ミニ BTF投資術

(多賀 俊文)FXで勝利へのMT4テンプレート

(株式会社DREAM-CATCHER)日経225先物 「マジックキャンドル10」




◎ギャンブル系
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