Saturday, October 20, 2007

You Have the Right to Remain Silent, If You Want to Feel Like You're Drowning

Much of the unhappiness with Judge Mukasey's answer to Senator Whitehouse's question whether waterboarding is unconstitutional concerns credibility. Judge Mukasey said that if waterboarding is torture then it's unconstitutional for U.S. govt agents to subject someone to waterboarding, but he said he didn't know enough about the technique to say whether it's torture. Under the present circumstances, for a prospective AG to say he doesn't know what waterboarding is, sounds a bit like a Supreme Court nominee saying he never discussed Roe v. Wade. (In response to a question whether he had ever discussed Roe, then-Judge Clarence Thomas said at his confirmation hearings that he had never "debated the contents of" the ruling, leading some Thomas defenders later to claim that he spoke the truth because he had never been in a formal debate on the subject.)

If the worry now is that Judge Mukasey has dodged the question by pleading ignorance, it would be a reasonable solution to send him a brief description of waterboarding, like this one provided by Mark Danner: "a prisoner is stripped, shackled and submerged in water until he begins to lose consciousness." Then ask Judge Mukasey whether he thinks this practice is legal.

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 expressly forbids "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment" of prisoners, and defines this prohibition as coextensive with the constitutional limits on treatment of prisoners. Given that the vast majority of people subject to Mukasey's jurisdiction if he becomes Attorney General will be those charged with or convicted of violations of domestic law, perhaps he should be asked whether he thinks that waterboarding of ordinary crime suspects in the custody of the FBI is permissible. And if so, doesn't he find it just a tiny bit odd that the Fifth Amendment forbids asking a suspect in custody questions without first warning him that he has a right to remain silent and a right to an attorney, but doesn't forbid making him feel like he is suffocating?

If not, perhaps Judge Mukasey could suggest a new Miranda warning for suspects to be waterboarded: "You have the right to remain silent, although your attempt to exercise that right will result in the sensation of suffocation and loss of consciousness."

Posted by Mike Dorf

11 comments:

egarber said...

The Military Commissions Act of 2006 expressly forbids "cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment" of prisoners, and defines this prohibition as coextensive with the constitutional limits on treatment of prisoners.

Can you elaborate on this a bit? The Act also eliminated habeas rights for non-citizens, correct? Right off the bat, that doesn't sound very "coextensive with constitutional limits."

Or is it that the law specifically mentions the constitution only in the torture context?

Derek said...

A friend of mine pointed out something else interesting about this. After Mukasey denied knowledge of the waterboarding "technique" he continued with the sentence: “If waterboarding is torture, torture is not constitutional.”

His theory (which sounds plausible to me) is that what Mukasey really meant was "if waterboarding is torture, *waterboarding* is unconstitutional," but that he was loath to utter the phrase "waterboarding is unconstitutional" even in such a conditional context.

Garth Sullivan said...

i noticed the same weird formulation as derek's friend and wondered about the cause.

mukasey is clearly not going to answer the question because he doesn't intend to prevent it, or prosecute it when he becomes AG.

no one believes for a second he doesn't know what waterboarding is..., it's like Thomas saying he never discussed Roe v. Wade.

it's a white lie if you can get away with it, a dealbreaker if you can't.

what will be truly pathetic is when the same Dems that vote for Mukasey feign shock at his failure to prevent, investigate or prosecute torture.

Sobek said...

Considering Biden's specific statement that Mukasey would be an acceptable candidate before he was nominated, it is hard to take any present criticisms seriously (as though I took Biden seriously anyway).

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