Thursday, November 27, 2008

Happy Thanksgiving?

As a vegan, I find the Thanksgiving holiday to be full of contradiction. On the one hand, it is a time to gather with family and friends and collectively celebrate our wellbeing and nurture each other in difficult times. It is, in other words, a time to take stock and acknowledge that "there but for the grace of God go I," which is one way to formulate the idea of giving thanks. On the other hand, it is a holiday that is symbolized by the massive slaughter of helpless and innocent creatures who have done nothing to deserve the suffering that they endure. Interestingly, our culture has a strange custom of having an executive official "pardon" one turkey. For a particularly telling scene of Sarah Palin giving a press conference after having "pardoned" and given "amnesty" to one turkey, see this and watch carefully what is happening directly behind the chief executive of Alaska.

I had the privilege of recently visiting a sanctuary for farm animals (a place where turkeys, cows, sheep, chickens, goats, and pigs who have been left for dead after lives of torture are rescued and treated with kindness and compassion). One turkey in particular, Echo, was friendly and allowed me and my family to pat him. Another, Phoenix, was a little more frightened of us but approached and looked into our eyes. The pigs were friendly and bright -- two baby piglets ran around us and acted just like puppies. In meeting these sweet and social animals, I felt thankful that at least they have escaped the fate of the billions of others facing terror, pain, deprivation and finally, slaughter. As Isaac Bashevis Singer wrote:
When a human kills an animal for food, he is neglecting his own hunger for justice. Man prays for mercy, but is unwilling to extend it to others. Why should man then expect mercy from God? It's unfair to expect something that you are not willing to give. It is inconsistent. I can never accept inconsistency or injustice. Even if it comes from God. If there would come a voice from God saying, "I'm against vegetarianism!" I would say, "Well, I am for it!" This is how strongly I feel in this regard.
Posted by Sherry Colb

23 comments:

Neil H. Buchanan said...

This is a very powerful post. Thanks to Sherry for sharing her thoughts. This year, my first as a vegan (and fourth as a vegetarian), is a particularly difficult Thanksgiving. I have not been able to watch the Palin video precisely because I find the torture and grisly deaths of animals so repellent.

This week, I have closed my emails with: "Have a happy and humane Thanksgiving." I hereby extend that sentiment to all readers of Dorf on Law.

egarber said...

Sherry, are you able to eat with others who prefer meat, say in a restaurant or at some gathering? I'm thinking it must be a pretty difficult experience -- it doesn't seem like something you can just tune out.

No need to answer if the question is too personal.

On a side note, our new puppy needs shoulder surgery. Won't be cheap -- but we're doing it anyway.

Adam said...

I don't understand how you can supposedly have such a big heart that you want to prevent the deaths of helpless, innocent animals, but you're totally ok with aborting helpless, innocent fetuses.

I understand that you can rationalize it by saying a fetus isn't alive yet whereas animals are, but I don't see how it doesn't result in a feeling of cognitive dissonance.

Derek said...

Adam -- I think it is overly simplistic to equate the principles underlying vegetarianism with the principles underlying the pro-life movement. Putting aside questions of consciousness (or life) - which I think you dismiss too easily as a way of avoiding cognitive dissonance - there are many other disanalogies between the issues, chief among them the fact that access to abortion is inextricably tied to the health and welfare of women and their rights over their own bodies. There is no obvious correlate in the vegetarianism debate except, maybe, the rights of people to eat whatever they think tastes good. But this latter right (if it is a right at all) seems rather weak in the face of torture and cruelty. Especially when there are plenty of tasty alternatives.

Sherry F. Colb said...

Thanks for your supportive words, Neil. I appreciate them, and I like the closing (about a humane T.Giving) that you have appended to your emails. For Egarber, I am able to eat with people who choose to be omnivores, though I am always grateful when they forgo that choice for the evening (which, for example, my parents-in-law always do). It's difficult when people want to interrogate me about the ethics of food choices over a meal, because as another vegan once wrote, and I agree, while a person is consuming a corpse, he or she is not going to be terribly receptive to arguments about the wrongfulness of such consumption. I hope your puppy has a speedy recovery, and I applaud your decision to spend the money to treat him (or her?) as a true member of your family, despite your legal option of not doing so (which, for example, animates the reality that dogs are only in a household for an average of 2 years before they are either abandoned, left at a "shelter" or put "to sleep". Adam, like you, I am interested in reducing the number of abortions, but I would do so by supporting education about controlling one's fertility and the provision of contraception to those who do not want to have a child right now. I also believe that the sorts of workplace and school supports that Feminists For Life sometimes champions are laudable, because they help women who feel out of options to have the freedom to choose to remain pregnant. I distinguish between abortion and animal slaughter, but not on the basis of whether a fetus is "alive." As Derek very ably explains, abortion is a decision about the inside of one's own body and whether it is to be shared with another being for an extended period of time. This is not a decision that one person should be in a position to make for another person. If (when) an artificial womb becomes possible, I will join you in opposing the termination of a fetus's life after a certain point (though that point, from my perspective, should correspond to some sense of consciousness of pain, pleasure, and/ or emotion, not simply the presence of human DNA, which a fertilized egg shares with a skin cell or a hair cell). Thank you, Derek, for so succinctly and effectively capturing the essence of the distinction. For an interesting Huffington Post article by Bill Maher, appropos to our Thanksgiving musings, check out http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bill-maher/george-bush-pardon-all-t_b_73574.html

Adam said...

Thanks Sherry for your thoughtful post. Your logic is puzzling, however. So basically you think fetuses are alive and it is morally wrong to kill them, except if it means putting a woman through 9 months of inconvenience. I just fail to see how that is so categorically different from putting a person through a life of inconvenience by preventing them from eating meat. Sure, being pregnant is more of an inconvenience than not eating meat, but if what we are really talking about here is murder, how can it turn on the level of inconvenience involved? You can't just say, "I have a right over my own body" and end the discussion. You have to explain why that right trumps the interest in the fetus' right. If someone attacks me with non-deadly force, I have some kind of right to my bodily integrity in that scenario, but I still can't kill my attacker, even though the beating I might get may be worse than 9 months of pregnancy. I just don't see your logic.

Adam said...

*i meant the interest in the fetus' life.

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