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xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-3639021220719604295' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/posts/default/3639021220719604295' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1885558119'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-3563582928047651689</id><published>2009-07-10T22:08:49.340-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-10T22:08:49.340-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Michael, just to be playful, aren&amp;#39;t the differ...</title><content type='html'>Michael, just to be playful, aren&amp;#39;t the differences between the US and Iran merely a matter of degree:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;1.  We both have a group of old men (OK, two women) who review legislation and decide if it is consistent with our values&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;2.  It&amp;#39;s almost impossible for candidates not approved by a major party to get on the ballot in either country&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;3.  A minority candidate has gotten elected in both countries within the last 10 years with the help of #1, above&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;More seriously, even if we admit the enormous differences in scale, don&amp;#39;t all countries have certain &amp;quot;countermajoritarian&amp;quot; institutions that seem ridiculous to outsiders but are accepted as normal by people inside the system?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/3563582928047651689'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/3563582928047651689'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html?showComment=1247278129340#c3563582928047651689' title=''/><author><name>michael a. livingston</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/00326884778751867521</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-3639021220719604295' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/posts/default/3639021220719604295' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-238748629'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-768262756531675010</id><published>2009-07-08T15:23:01.925-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-08T15:23:01.925-04:00</updated><title type='text'>All good points by Sam, and I&amp;#39;m not actually o...</title><content type='html'>All good points by Sam, and I&amp;#39;m not actually opposed in principle to all super-majoritarian or counter-majoritarian forms of decision making.  But I do think that on the whole, it&amp;#39;s easier to justify the cm features of the courts than of our national legislative process.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/768262756531675010'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/768262756531675010'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html?showComment=1247080981925#c768262756531675010' title=''/><author><name>Michael C. Dorf</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/02021009233932690926</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_EpNKsXhfB0o/SewC0V8AE_I/AAAAAAAAAA8/GI25Uf_u4RA/S220/dorf+cartoon.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-3639021220719604295' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/posts/default/3639021220719604295' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-493318476'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-5922421401718073014</id><published>2009-07-08T14:04:47.079-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-08T14:04:47.079-04:00</updated><title type='text'>Caleb,

Good point, but MD already made it by noti...</title><content type='html'>Caleb,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Good point, but MD already made it by noting that &amp;quot;the Senate itself...vastly over-represents residents of low-population states&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Mike,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I completely agree with the general thrust of your comments.  I think it&amp;#39;s worth noting, though, that one reason why SCOTUS has at best only marginal things to say about Items 1-5 *now* is that it once said non-marginal things about at least some of these items in the past.  Regulation of capitalism (through maximum hour, minimum wage, occupational health and safety, child labor, etc.) was a big deal on the SCOTUS docket at the time of the last big economic bubble.  It was only because of the famous &amp;quot;switch in time&amp;quot; that we are where we are today on Item 1 (which is also tightly connected to Items 2, 3, and 5).&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the issue of pandemics, the Court did weigh in on the question of mandatory vaccination in Jacobsen v. Massachusetts in the late 19th century (if memory serves).  If it hadn&amp;#39;t weighed in, where would we be now?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;On the question of campaign finance, it could be argued that the reason why lobbyists are allowed the kind of influence that frustrates majority will is that the majority, speaking through their representatives, prefer it that way.  Union members want their lobbyists to have better access, doctors want AMA lobbyists to have better access, farmers want.... and so on.  This is a situation in which the majority ends up acting against the best interests of the majority.  It&amp;#39;s not just &amp;quot;What&amp;#39;s the matter with Kansas?&amp;quot; any more.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;It&amp;#39;s also worth noting that not all of the supermajoritarian CMD mechanisms are created equal.  Some of these mechanisms (e.g., 2 senators per State) are enshrined in the Constitution as a result of a supermajoritarian ratification process.  Others (e.g., cloture in the Senate) are the result of rules adopted by the representative bodies themselves.  And yet others are the result of majority vote through the initiative process (CA&amp;#39;s supermajority rule to pass a budget)!  In at least one of these cases, majority vote resulted in the hamstringing of future majorities.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/5922421401718073014'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/5922421401718073014'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html?showComment=1247076287079#c5922421401718073014' title=''/><author><name>Sam Rickless</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16662254589824229160</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-3639021220719604295' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/posts/default/3639021220719604295' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-439897499'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-6541202181841323391</id><published>2009-07-08T11:19:45.022-04:00</published><updated>2009-07-08T11:19:45.022-04:00</updated><title type='text'>How about the Senate itself -- why should Californ...</title><content type='html'>How about the Senate itself -- why should California and Rhode Island (or Delaware) have the same number of Senators?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/6541202181841323391'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/3639021220719604295/comments/default/6541202181841323391'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html?showComment=1247066385022#c6541202181841323391' title=''/><author><name>Caleb</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/12940355274759025022</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.dorfonlaw.org/2009/07/important-countermajoritarian.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-36951752.post-3639021220719604295' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/36951752/posts/default/3639021220719604295' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-882079125'/></entry></feed>
